Conference Centre

[Apathy]

I live downtown too. I would just like to see less crackers and not have to worry about my wheel barrow being stolen in the front yard lol.. Years ago Harbour Park mall was the place to be... mmm fries and gravy and a malt at the old guvenors restaurant in the mall..

[dilligaf]

I live downtown too. I would just like to see less crackers and not have to worry about my wheel barrow being stolen in the front yard lol.. Years ago Harbour Park mall was the place to be... mmm fries and gravy and a malt at the old guvenors restaurant in the mall..

That will happen. The conference centre and the condo developments will bring decent people downtown again. And there are some really nice cafes opening up.

[fitz]

Density = Success indeed.

Downtown's gonna be a hoppin' place in the next few years... if we let them continue to build. I'll get shot down for this, but, highrises? Yes, please, I'll take two.

[dilligaf]

Density = Success indeed.

Downtown's gonna be a hoppin' place in the next few years... if we let them continue to build. I'll get shot down for this, but, highrises? Yes, please, I'll take two.

Whats wrong with highrises?

[fitz]

I'm supporting the idea... I think you misread that.

I thought I'd get shot down for *supporting* them.

[Rickj]

Whats wrong with highrises?

Highrises have their place certainly. Personally I do not think right at the waterfront is the place.

I came in on Harbour Air on Sunday in the mid afternoon. Walking up the dock I noticed that long before I was on the shore I was in the shadow of the new building on the Malaspina site. If highrises were set back from the shore such that they did not put everything in their shadow along that waterfront that would be ok to me.

The 2 towers that are going to go by Maffeo Sutton park are going to put large portions of the park into the shade if they are very tall at all.

[dilligaf]

I'm supporting the idea... I think you misread that.

I thought I'd get shot down for *supporting* them.

I got it ok. I just dont get the opposition to highrises downtown. Isnt the idea to increase density downtown?

[fitz]

I've never heard that concern before, that's original. Honestly though, because of the path the sun travels across that area, the waterfront is pretty much guaranteed light the entire morning and into late afternoon, even if they built a wall of highrises.

Besides, this is where we need the density. A city that supports foot traffic & small business(provided by density) rather than automobile traffic and big-box stores (sprawl). It's the future.

*@dilligaf: Oh, I see what you're saying. You wonder why people would shoot me down over this. I do too, but it happens.

[yogi bear]

Hi all,

Count me in on approving the highrises...went for a walk out Biggs park the other day...a friend commented on how he didn't care for all those highrises on the waterfront...my reply was " would you rather see homes spread up the side of Mt. Benson ala Port Coquitlam?" Personally I'm all for the increses densification of the downtown, even on the waterfront. The one caveat to that is that access to the waterfront always be maintained, and as has already been noted, not only have the developers maintained the access to the waterfront, I'd say they've enhanced it...just look at the walkway in front of the Pacifica for an example. My beef is more directed towards the folks who chose to prevent the city from extending the walkway past the ferries to the Departure Bay beach...and those were single family dwellings for the most part.

Cheers,
Al

[dilligaf]

Rickj posted on an unrelated thread.....

Interesting recent article
http://www.syracuse.com/articles/new...300.xml&coll=1


Ah yes - Heywood Saunders again about an American city. And not a particularly appealing one at that.

Here is a partial list of the trustees at the Brookings Institute which paid Mr. Saunders to write a report critical of government being involved in convention centres. Keep in mind, he focussed on middle to large sized American cities with little else going for them. IE Syracuse, Baltimore, St Louis and Philadelphia. Heywood Saunders is a rent-an-expert. He will come and say pretty much what you want to hear. And he knows nothing about the Canadian market, which is very different than the US market.

Alan R. Batkin
Vice Chairman
Eton Park Capital Management

Richard C. Blum
Chairman and President
Blum Capital Partners, LP

Geoffrey T. Boisi
Chairman and Senior Partner
Roundtable Investment Partners LLC

Abby Joseph Cohen
Chief US Investment Strategist
Goldman, Sachs & Co.

Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr.
Chair
O'Melveny & Myers LLP

Alan M. Dachs
President and CEO
Fremont Group

Kenneth W. Dam
Max Pam Professor of American & Foreign Law
University of Chicago Law School

Steven A. Denning
Chairman
General Atlantic LLC

Vishakha N. Desai Ph.D.
President and CEO
The Asia Society

Paul Desmarais Jr.
Chairman and CEO
Power Corporation of Canada

Thomas E. Donilon
Partner
O'Melveny & Myers LLP

This is a partial list. The full list can be seen at http://www.brookings.edu/about/Trustees.aspx