Cable bay golf resort and spa

[Rickj]

Oh and by the way, if any City Councillor states that this development is a done deal at this point then technically under the Local Government Act they should excuse themselves from any further discussions/decisions related to the project.

This is because a rezoning and a change to the OCP is required before Cable Bay can proceed and the Local Government Act states that a Council member must enter a public hearing related to either of these issues with an open mind so that they can properly consider any representations put forward at the hearings.

[Trailblazer]

The so-called Friends of Plan Nanaimo absolutely refuse to tell anyone who is funding them. I didnt know who owned that website, but if it is Jan Pullinger it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Re Friends of Nanaimo. They are quite transparent. They have a list of directors, contact information & a subscription table; what more do you want.
Have you ever asked them about their funding?
If not where do you get" absolutley refuse to tell who is funding them"?
Who is "funding" Cable Bay?

[Trailblazer]

EXCUSE ME!

You find me an annoyance because I do not agree with you?

That is rude and an apology MAY be accepted

I am well aware that Island Phoenix no longer exists but am sure that it contributed to some of the pollution in the RED ZONE when IP existed hence it's inclusion in the discussion because if I had not mentioned it, you would have stated that I was being selective. Years ago, Harmac did spend money and of course they are still putting containments in the air and soil and water.

Now as far as research is concerned, HOW can an AQUIFER be CONTAMINATED from a GOLF COURSE (proposed Cable Bay- not the one by the airport) WHEN the GOLF COURSE is LOCATED 6.5 KMS (as the bird flies - not as the winding river flows) DOWNSTREAM?

Note: The aquifer is located at a higher elevation then the Cable Bay lands.

I suggest you take your concerns to Dr Earl after you first earn a degree n Geology. There are two aquifers, that are quite deep, one of which extends to the cable Bay area. Why dont' you Google Golf Course toxins to see how this proposed project will compound any exsisting pollution.

[Trailblazer]

I also have to comment on the NO side of things in regards to the actions some have taken to slow/stop the project.

There is a locked gate on the Cable Bay property, which is PRIVATE PROPERTY. This gate has been locked for various issues on the property usually having to do with safety concerns.
On at least 5 occassions someone has come onto the property and broken the lock off the gate, then proceeded to put up some flyers against Cable Bay
Again, it has been private property for a few years now and people seems to forget that the developer could gate off the whole area and close access to parts of the Cable Bay Trail...
It's the attitude of some citizens that they are entitled to do whatever they want on the land that they do not own. They feel they should dictate what sort of development should be placed there, even though the City Council and Regional District has voted on the development and PASSED IT!

I think the RDN last vote was 15-2 in favor of the project. Those are the representatives voted on by residents.

I used to live out in the area, so I'm keeping an eye on what happens. Hopefully in a few years we have a decent golfin choice besides NAnaimo Golf Club.

The last person to put forward such unsubstantiated accusations about users of the trails around Cable Bay was Rodger McKinnon. He was wrong too!
Goodnight Troll.

[Smokey©]

I suggest you take your concerns to Dr Earl after you first earn a degree n Geology. There are two aquifers, that are quite deep, one of which extends to the cable Bay area.

I never claimed to have a degree in geology and am extremely curious to know what the name of the second aquifer is and it's location. I have never heard of this secret aquifer! Is it on the grassy knoll (with the second gunman)? There are two major aquifers located on Vancouver Island, one is the Cassidy aquifer and the other is the Quadra Sands aquifer which is mostly concentrated in the Comox, Qualicum and Parksville areas. Do you have a degree in geology or water management or a PHD in Chemistry?

[Rickj]

Actually the Quadra Sands extends way further south than Parksville. Some geologists state that it actually extends down into Puget Sound. A leftover from the glacial period the Quadra Sands acquifer contains a huge portion of the groundwater reserves that are easily accessible on the Eastern portion of Vancouver Island. One significant concern is that if we can easily access these water reserves so can contamination.

Nanaimo residents do not use the Quadra Sands areas for our water source as we use the Jump Lake watershed in the Nanaimo Lakes area. As Nanaimo's policy is "no city services outside city boundaries", when we screw up the acquifer in the Cable Bay area we will not provide water to those residents in Area A who are affected.

[Smokey©]

According to Dr Earl's article, the Quadra Sands is not a continuous aquifer but a group which is in spotted areas down the eastern side of Vancouver Island but does not include the area south of Cottle Creek, and then resurfaces on Kuper Island and then further south near Sidney.

Once again. .. .. where is this secret aquifer in Cable Bay?

[shifty]

I'm no geologist or water expert, but maybe the aquifer in question at Cable Bay is part of the bedrock aquifer known as the Nanaimo Group aquifer rather than the surficial Cassidy or Quadra Sands aquifer.

[Rickj]

One thing to keep in mind is that while an area may not be part of the bigger Quadra Sands the key thing is whether or not the local residents get their water supply from groundwater. Whether we call it Quadra Sands or not really isnt the argument. It is whether or not the residents of the surrounding area get their water supply from groundwater.

This is definitely the case in the area of Cable Bay. Here is a link from a Mal-U report that shows the distribution in the area of parts that are serviced by surface water (ie Nanaimo) vs those that are serviced from groundwater.

http://web.mala.bc.ca/earle/geol304/geol-304-e.pdf

[RelaxedIslander]

Only 97 acres of the over 500 acres of the Cable Bay development are in Area A, most of the property is in the City of Nanaimo.

I've read that there was a vote by the RDN to regarding holding a public hearing about the annexation of this 97 acres and they approved only 2 of 17 voted in favor of holding a hearing. Most directors realize that there will be a public hearing once the annexation is approved by the province. At this point the public can voice there opions directly to the council. If they do not agree with council's decision at that point, the next civic election is where they can really make themselves heard.

City council, city staff and many of the RDN directors are supporting proposal. A letter has been sent to Ida Chong of Ministry of Community Services from the City of Nanaimo regarding the boundary extension.

I would love for Nanaimo to have a real resort, and new golf course...if it is done properly.

P.S. Thanks for the TROLL comment. Just because I don't agree with you I am a troll. So I guess it is ok for others to post "unsubstantiated accusations" and incorrect information but I am not allowed to post things I've read in the paper, heard around town & radio.