City Cleans Up Nuisance Property?

[kickidee]

You are right and this is the correct point about the case against Korey. However in kinder times a grandfather clause can be granted. This piece of property has been a scrap yard for 40 years and it wasnt illegal then. The laws have changed to make Korey in breech. Korey did not break the law deliberately its just that the rules changed and these folks cant keep up.

[queen of the waterfront]

What a good point! how come council never thought of it?

[kickidee]

Well, they must have suspected Korey of something, he believes and I have seen a sticky note indicating that the CIA was involved. I think the complainents fears became the cities fears and it all escalated into this gong show.

[Piper]

Well, they must have suspected Korey of something, he believes and I have seen a sticky note indicating that the CIA was involved. I think the complainents fears became the cities fears and it all escalated into this gong show.

Kickidee, The only people who can understand or relate to what you are saying are the people who have had the chance to read all of Korey's file. Everyone else is only getting half the facts and relying on the newspapers for their information, and are not intrested in anything else that may change their mind. (My oppinion)it shows as this thread is more of an argument of what Korey suposedly done or did not do. We could go on for months wandering if Korey is right or wrong but in the eyes of the court the decission will be made and then there will be something else to argue about if Korey is on the winning end of the stick.

[Piper]

If Korey gets his hot tub going Kickidee he can invite my boys over with some young ladies to have a hot tub party. Then maybe the city can send the bucket truck over so they have something to look at. I doubt if the neighbors will complain then.

[kickidee]

Yes but another important part is the application of law. If we expect bylaws to be applied fairly, the question is why are we not happy with how they were applied to Korey? It is clear that he was ordered to clean up his yard, he didnt, he had consequences allowed under that law. So why do we argue? Because his mom is getting along or his Dad died? No this is not bleeding hearts land this is a clear case of overkill. Is there no limitation on bringing down the law on a situation where the defendant or civilian cannot do what he is ordered to do? Are there no other options for different circumstances such as these? Are our laws so black and white they take nothing into consideration? And shouldnt the law need to explain itself when it is applied differently to individual circumstances so that people understand why they were not applied to the letter? Would the grandfather clause and a good fence not do the trick at a fraction of the expense and dramatics? Isnt solving the problem more reasonable than trying to push a round peg into square hole because it is written?

[Piper]

Yes but another important part is the application of law. If we expect bylaws to be applied fairly, the question is why are we not happy with how they were applied to Korey? It is clear that he was ordered to clean up his yard, he didnt, he had consequences allowed under that law. So why do we argue? Because his mom is getting along or his Dad died? No this is not bleeding hearts land this is a clear case of overkill. Is there no limitation on bringing down the law on a situation where the defendant or civilian cannot do what he is ordered to do? Are there no other options for different circumstances such as these? Are our laws so black and white they take nothing into consideration? And shouldnt the law need to explain itself when it is applied differently to individual circumstances so that people understand why they were not applied to the letter? Would the grandfather clause and a good fence not do the trick at a fraction of the expense and dramatics? Isnt solving the problem more reasonable than trying to push a round peg into square hole because it is written?

None of the court documents were addressed to Korey. this elliminates him from the clean up. If the city of Nanaimo staff has chosen to demand a clean up of such a large property by a 76 year old lady then I would question there enforcement. 2 words say it all Bucket truck its an invasion of privacy and I'm sure our mayor knows this or he would not have silenced councilor Holdem at the meeting on the issue in March 2007. Korey had his belongings demolished and removed from the property they cannot apply funds recieved from the sale of such belongings to another persons outstanding debt.

[sustainibertarian]

Kickidee, The only people who can understand or relate to what you are saying are the people who have had the chance to read all of Korey's file. Everyone else is only getting half the facts and relying on the newspapers for their information, and are not intrested in anything else that may change their mind. (My oppinion)it shows as this thread is more of an argument of what Korey suposedly done or did not do. We could go on for months wandering if Korey is right or wrong but in the eyes of the court the decission will be made and then there will be something else to argue about if Korey is on the winning end of the stick.

Well, if your referring to me, then you are absolutely wrong about me not being interested in changing my mind. Further, I don't think I need Korey's autobiography to have an opinion on a land use/bylaw issue. I'd feel damn sorry for land use planners and bylaw officers if that was the case! I think that if Kickidee's assessment as to Korey's land being used for scrap before it had residential zoning is accurate, then there is at least an argument to be made that an exception could be made. Nevertheless, I believe the grandfathering clause requires that the business not be out of operation for more than 6 months (I think its 6). Since Korey doesn't have a formal business operation, then I don't think that the argument for grandfathering would hold.

[Piper]

I wasn't refering to anyone specificaly, I didn't give no names. It's (My oppinion) just like it says.

[queen of the waterfront]

Wow thanks Sustain. Oh my !

I am off topic just for sec but does that grandafathering have to be proved?
If so I am going to use it in my busking case when I get a hold of JOE ARVAY

I truly appreciate the input from everyone on this forum. Intelligent commments and dissenting opinion what a marvellous medium it is.