Nanaimo Harbor for the rich????

[homeless]

"So the contract my friend just put in front of me, that states they must leave for the boat show and is for a full year is a fraud? "

As I stated earlier in this thread the two piers closest to the PI ferry are year round. No liveaboards due to sewage? Then how come we let anyone live in Victoria where they dump ALL their raw sewage in the waters. I think it makes sense to require holding tanks on all boats and sewage treatment for all cities.

[queen of the waterfront]

I had an interesting conversation today in regards to the proposal regarding liveaboards. I was wrong about my friends runabout and not having to move it for the boat show. ALL of the boats need to be moved for the boat show. There are no liveaboard boats permitted at the boat basin due to not having facilities to handle waste. All boats need to use the sewage connection on the dock between the fishing pier and the visiting vessel pier. Plans are in process allowing year round permits at selected docks at the boat basin although they will not include liveaboards. I don't know if any boats currently have year round permits yet.

There seem to be roughly 15-20 year-round vessels that will be affected by the proposed changes as well as some that stay less then a year but more then 14 days and some of that number support the changes as it will protect their own boats.

As usual Smokey good information. I am curious to see what the public input will be.
i know that Cowichan Bay had a number of floathouses and new rules were made there . I will check it out to see what happened.

personally i just loved the floathouses,they added colo .

[Smokey©]

No liveaboards due to sewage? Then how come we let anyone live in Victoria where they dump ALL their raw sewage in the waters. I think it makes sense to require holding tanks on all boats and sewage treatment for all cities.

I agree about Victoria. They seem to have a problem with complaints from municipalities on the American side of Haro and San Juan de Fuca straits.

The provincial capitol of British Columbia, Victoria and its suburbs, known as the Capitol Regional District, is home to roughly 325,754 residents, according to the 2001 Canadian Census. The CRD discharges about 120 million liters of untreated sewage -- 3.7 million gallons -- each day into Haro and San Juan de Fuca straits from two "outfalls", one located at McCaulay Point and the other at Clover Point. The outlets are located roughly 1.5 km from shore. Victoria and the southern tip of San Juan Island are separated by Haro Strait and roughly nine miles of marine waters.

That is the Capital Regional District problem that they have to solve.

Capital Regional District webpage about outfalls


Frank Ney referred to Nanaimo as the "Jewel of the Pacific" and the Port Authority wishes that it will continue to be called that, hence the Port's stance on protecting our harbour. We only want to look after our own backyard.

[homeless]

Every day the City of Victoria is breaking the law by discharging pollution into waters frequented by fish and if you look at the lack of enforcement by the Feds and the Province, it is all of our problem. Have a look at the currents of the waters around us. Shame to all three levels of Government.

As far as False Creek in Vancouver goes...they got rid of the boats and guess what! The problem is the sewers from the citiy's residents. What happens to our sewers when we have heavy rain events? Do we have combined sewer outfalls?

Read more http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...c-ea0d9aa2cd6f

[titan5]

Every day the City of Victoria is breaking the law by discharging pollution into waters frequented by fish and if you look at the lack of enforcement by the Feds and the Province, it is all of our problem. Have a look at the currents of the waters around us. Shame to all three levels of Government.

As far as False Creek in Vancouver goes...they got rid of the boats and guess what! The problem is the sewers from the citiy's residents. What happens to our sewers when we have heavy rain events? Do we have combined sewer outfalls?

Nanaimo is not Victoria and oh ya, two wrongs don't make a right.

[homeless]

Nanaimo is not Victoria and oh ya, two wrongs don't make a right.

Of course they do not but my point is that if the concerns expressed by the anti anchoring crowd are to be taken with any seriousness, then one would hope that the anti anchoring folks would spend as much energy on addressing real issues like the millions of tonnes of effluent we as a society dump into the oceans of BC. Right here in nanimo we have Harmac and others causing far greater harm. I think we all have to work on cleaning up our acts and limiting our contributions to the degradation of the natural environment, not taking pot shots at those less fortunate to have to live on their boats. Each of us should look at how we contribute to the destruction of the bio-sphere by driving gas guzzling vehicles, eating food from far away(ie bananas) and start to focus on reducing our environmental footprints.

[TH2008]

Every day the City of Victoria is breaking the law by discharging pollution into waters frequented by fish and if you look at the lack of enforcement by the Feds and the Province, it is all of our problem. Have a look at the currents of the waters around us. Shame to all three levels of Government.

As far as False Creek in Vancouver goes...they got rid of the boats and guess what! The problem is the sewers from the citiy's residents. What happens to our sewers when we have heavy rain events? Do we have combined sewer outfalls?

Read more http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...c-ea0d9aa2cd6f

Homeless, don't you think you are getting a bit off track now, adding issues concerning False Creek and Victoria? Your original post was "Nanaimo Harbor for the rich????". We could add issue after issue about different places and other events taking place there. But, hey...maybe we should stick to one place, Nanaimo?

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TH

[queen of the waterfront]

Are we dealing with all boaters in the same way?

That is my concern . Do visiting boaters whether live aboards, older boats, have the same rules?

If a million dollar cruiser comes to the harbor and dumps sewage , is he charged in the same way? I guess I might clarify that by saying if a boater can afford to pay the big bucks to use the harbor , is his or her sewage dumping monitored?

Homeless I understand your concerns about other places but we need focus on this issue.

i have a short little tale. I know some very rich people who live in town. They can afford to put out six or more bags of garbage a week. Their contribution to our garbage dump is huge for the small number in their family. They dont recycle , dont even think about it because they can pay to haul it away.

Is this issue in the harbor about user pay or pollution in the harbor?

[titan5]

Of course they do not but my point is that if the concerns expressed by the anti anchoring crowd are to be taken with any seriousness, then one would hope that the anti anchoring folks would spend as much energy on addressing real issues like the millions of tonnes of effluent we as a society dump into the oceans of BC. Right here in nanimo we have Harmac and others causing far greater harm. I think we all have to work on cleaning up our acts and limiting our contributions to the degradation of the natural environment, not taking pot shots at those less fortunate to have to live on their boats. Each of us should look at how we contribute to the destruction of the bio-sphere by driving gas guzzling vehicles, eating food from far away(ie bananas) and start to focus on reducing our environmental footprints.

You seem to forget that the "N" in NPA is for Nanaimo, as in NANAIMO Port Authority. Their focus should be Nanaimo's waterfront & boat basin and has little to do with any other jurisdiction.

[homeless]

You seem to forget that the "N" in NPA is for Nanaimo, as in NANAIMO Port Authority. Their focus should be Nanaimo's waterfront & boat basin and has little to do with any other jurisdiction.

...and your point is?