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    Default Conspiracy theories run amok!

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey© View Post
    In that case, is it also a case of Ruttan not giving the true facts and information to the Daily News but making sure that the Bulletin got the right information. Or is it because Unger used to be involved with the Bulletin before he got elected? Is the reason for Berry's departure because of his handling of the Kipp situation with the Emergency Response Team for Earthquakes etc. years ago? Is all of this because Ruttan beat Korpan so the new council is all of sudden booting out the Korpan staff? If it is, welcome back to the political interference days that we got rid of during the Roberts' days (the only thing Grahame did other then change our nickname). Oh yah, Grahame also did the right thing by moving south Great modelling career Grahame!
    Again, how about the simple answer, Berry decided he did not wish to remain, he offered his resignation and Council accepted. Therefore Ruttan's position is correct and factual, Berry was NOT fired.

    The exact reasons for Berry's resignation may only been known to Berry and if he chooses not to share those reasons with Council or the media, that is his perogative. I am confident of one thing, Mr. Berry is a very intellegent man and I am sure he has thought this through.

    Jerry is not bound by the standard CON Management Terms and Conditions contract. He negotiated his own personal iron clad contract years ago that is superior to the standard CON management contract and was agreed to by the council of the day, lead by our former Mayor, a self professed lawyer. So whatever severance we end up paying, we can once again thank Korpan and the old guard for providing Mr. Berry his golden handshake.
    Last edited by titan5; 10-01-2009 at 10:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan5 View Post
    Again, how about the simple answer, Berry decided he did not wish to remain, he offered his resignation and Council accepted. Therefore Ruttan's position is correct and factual, Berry was NOT fired.

    The exact reasons for Berry's resignation may only been known to Berry and if he chooses not to share those reasons with Council or the media, that is his perogative. I am confident of one thing, Mr. Berry is a very intellegent man and I am sure he has thought this through.

    Gerry is not bound by the standard CON (City of Nanaimo) Management Terms and Conditions contract. He negotiated his own personal iron clad contract years ago that is superior to the standard CON management contract and was agreed to by the council of the day, lead by our former Mayor, a self professed lawyer. So whatever severance we end up paying, we can once again thank Korpan and the old guard for providing Mr. Berry his golden handshake.
    Oh, I agree, but .. there always is a but. . why did the Bulletin get the news information that was not given to the Daily News? And, yes, conspiracy theories exist and will always exist .. who really was on the grassy knoll?. . .. . . I was only 8, so it wasn't me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey© View Post
    Oh, I agree, but .. there always is a but. . why did the Bulletin get the news information that was not given to the Daily News? And, yes, conspiracy theories exist and will always exist .. who really was on the grassy knoll?. . .. . . I was only 8, so it wasn't me
    I would speculate, going from past performance of the Daily that they edited the information to suit their own purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yorway View Post
    I would speculate, going from past performance of the Daily that they edited the information to suit their own purposes.
    Why would any newspaper allow another to get the right story while they only used two quotes. The only reason is because they were only given part of the answers, while the other got all of them. The worst thing that can happen to a newspaper is to let the other guy get the story first, so I doubt if they edited the information so they would get the story wrong and to let the Bulletin scoop them. Blue mentioned about the friendship between Cuddy and Korpan. We all know about the connection with Unger and the Bulletin. It isn't conspiracy material, it is fact. The Daily was not given the right information, and the Bulletin was. Here we go again! Maybe Cuddy will be the next one to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey© View Post
    Why would any newspaper allow another to get the right story while they only used two quotes. The only reason is because they were only given part of the answers, while the other got all of them. The worst thing that can happen to a newspaper is to let the other guy get the story first, so I doubt if they edited the information so they would get the story wrong and to let the Bulletin scoop them. Blue mentioned about the friendship between Cuddy and Korpan. We all know about the connection with Unger and the Bulletin. It isn't conspiracy material, it is fact. The Daily was not given the right information, and the Bulletin was. Here we go again! Maybe Cuddy will be the next one to go?
    The Bulletin did not scoop, the Daily ran the story first. Perhaps the Daily crafted its story in hopes of making the new Mayor look less than forthright, or perhaps the Bulletin has better staff that ask better questions.

    It would not be the first time a Daily writer has had his story altered by management to sensationalize an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan5 View Post
    . . .. . or perhaps the Bulletin has better staff that ask better questions.
    THAT is most likely the real reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey© View Post
    THAT is most likely the real reason
    There we go, agreement.

    Don't forget it was, afterall, the Bulletin that asked the right questions to expose the Roger McKinnon/Cable Bay story even though McKinnon placed the ads in question in the Daily News some 5 months earlier.

    How can the taxpayers expect the Daily to get a story right when they don't even know what is going on in their own bailiwick or worst yet, cover it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan5 View Post
    . . . Gee whiz, the new Mayor won't break confidences, he won't discuss private matters until the exit is finalized, ergo, according to the Daily Snooze, the new Mayor lacks backbone and fails as a leader.... what a crock! . . .

    . . . The Daily Snooze is well aware that Council is not required to discuss matters related to finances, and bravo to both Berry and Council for not allowing the media to drag the severance negotiations into the media. . . .

    . . . Rest assured that the current Council will negotiate, to the best of their ability, to provide Berry a fair package that fits within the legal framework of his existing employment contract that was drafted and approved by previous Council, not Ruttan and the current council. . . .

    Only 4 years ago Berry was looking for work elsewhere, at one point he offered his resignation before but the council of the day convinced him to stay.
    Preface--my apologies if the quoted material that I've carried to my response is out of the order in which you wrote it. Mouse malfunction. I've tried to keep your quoted material in as close order as possible to the way you wrote it. There was no intention to change the intent of what you wrote.

    It's standard practice not to discuss the reasons for a person leaving a position that's placed them in the public eye, unless and until it becomes necessary for the public to know. Having worked in another public area, I've seen it happen, and no questions have been asked by members of the public. And probably not by the media, either. In some cases, perhaps questions should have been asked but the matters were very carefully handled, and a cone of silence descended. I could name three people, but won't, who earned salaries not quite equal to that of Jerry Berry, but not that far off it, either, who left their positions without even a ripple in the media. It's amazing that sometimes the best politicians are not found in politics, particularly when all of those salaries were paid by the citizens of this area. Only one other (and fourth) departure of a top-level executive made the news, and simply because the person departing chose to take the matter to court. Mayor and Council are simply behaving in the way that is accepted and legal, in dealing with this. So to interpret how this is being handled as being a lack of backbone is, indeed, not appropriate.

    It's absolutely certain that Berry negotiated himself a contract that covered all possibilities with very great care. And now those parts of the contract come into play.

    " . . .Only 4 years ago Berry was looking for work elsewhere, at one point he offered his resignation before but the council of the day convinced him to stay."

    From the content of your previous posts, I'd think that you know exactly which "elsewhere" made him an offer. At least, it's my understanding that he was made an offer. Perhaps now he's wishing he'd accepted that offer. Currently, it would be a very interesting "elsewhere" to be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradama View Post
    It's standard practice not to discuss the reasons for a person leaving a position that's placed them in the public eye, unless and until it becomes necessary for the public to know. Having worked in another public area, I've seen it happen, and no questions have been asked by members of the public. And probably not by the media, either. In some cases, perhaps questions should have been asked but the matters were very carefully handled, and a cone of silence descended. I could name three people, but won't, who earned salaries not quite equal to that of Jerry Berry, but not that far off it, either, who left their positions without even a ripple in the media. It's amazing that sometimes the best politicians are not found in politics, particularly when all of those salaries were paid by the citizens of this area. Only one other (and fourth) departure of a top-level executive made the news, and simply because the person departing chose to take the matter to court. Mayor and Council are simply behaving in the way that is accepted and legal, in dealing with this. So to interpret how this is being handled as being a lack of backbone is, indeed, not appropriate.
    More agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradama View Post
    It's absolutely certain that Berry negotiated himself a contract that covered all possibilities with very great care. And now those parts of the contract come into play.
    This is getting scary

    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradama View Post
    " ...From the content of your previous posts, I'd think that you know exactly which "elsewhere" made him an offer. At least, it's my understanding that he was made an offer. Perhaps now he's wishing he'd accepted that offer. Currently, it would be a very interesting "elsewhere" to be working.
    Yes I do know where Mr. Berry applied, interviewed and was offered the job.

    It is sheer speculation on my part but I do believe Jerry loves Nanaimo and moving away to the other side of the water, while offering new challenges of Olympic proportion, was not overly appealing. Perhaps he did it to increase his leverage for negotiations with the 2002-2005 Council.

    I also speculate that the good friend you have referred to is likely working down in Langford now and if I am correct, I also agree that your friend got royally buggered by Mr. Berry.

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