What teenagers are up to these days?!!!?

[BigMac]

Don't know if anyone has been following this in the paper. I have been watching to see what they came up with, & wholly crap, what were these kids thinking? Teenagers for god sake. Sounds like some kind of serial murderer stuff, but no, teens in Victoria!!! What the hell are we doing wrong people, for our kids to turn out like this. Dam. I say hang the both of them. Nutbars at age 18. To add to that, hang the parents too. End of rant

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1775513/

[Wyatt Earp]

it is referred to as the ophra generation. no boundaries, no resposibility, no consequences...

[larrynmo]

to sexually assault a beautiful young woman,beat her to death, stuff her body in a freezer, then take the body ,put her in a bag, burn her... oh my god..and get only 10 years in prison because they were "young offenders"..makes me sick......these people need to stay in prison for the rest of their lives...the young offenders act needs to be eradicated....you can't tell me that these teenagers were too young to know the severity of what they did....sounds like they were just having fun..what's wrong with our youth these days and where are their parents...I 'm an advocate of the death penalty to deter this from happening...

[sheena]

They picked out their victim. It was premeditated. They carried her body in a duffle bag- on a bus???? OMG. They PLANNED this . Our laws really need to change. SICK . The 17-year-old said he “felt bad that he was going to get caught but did not feel bad for Kimberly Proctor’s family or friends,” ???? Little pukes. I agree that a lot of kids these days are not taught respect - do not take responsiblity - no morals whatsoever. I have seen it myself - parents stick up for their kids when they get in trouble. They get angry with the teachers or police when the kid is caught doing something. Total denial. Bull***t to that. Maybe parents need to go to parent school to learn how to raise their kids.

[albertabluesky]

Maybe parents need to pass a test before they procreate....(I'm sure Harper would be all over that).
Seriously,
Kids are not taught to respect ALL adults, and I think they lose their respect for other human beings because they are never held accountable for the little things, never 'allowed' to fail in school, etc...they don't know where the boundaries are....
Perhaps if some parents were held partially responsible you would see things change..

[Nostradama]

have always been around. In my first year of teaching, I was warned by the principal never to be alone with one particular male student. Never. No reason was given. I suspect something had happened somewhere, or the principal thought there was potential for trouble. That kid would now be in his early sixties. And I've been waiting for all these years to read his name in a headline. So far, no. The furthest he went that year was stealing the bibles from every teacher's desk, since that was back in the days when the bible was read aloud daily, taking them to the stage in the auditorium, and burning them, which resulted in a bit of a fire, but no major damage. That was in the sixties.

In the seventies I was teaching kids almost as bad as these two Victoria killers, (in one case definitely worse), who'd served perhaps a year or so in some juvenile facility and were then placed in foster homes nowhere near where they'd committed the crimes and not with family members as foster parents. One of them spent one year in a Nanaimo school, was then permitted to return to the community where he'd grown up, and back to his family. I can't and won't go into details, but after he returned home he committed a crime even worse than the killing in the Victoria area. So before that kid hit eighteen, he'd committed two murders.

I think we're more aware of teen crime now than we were, but I also think that the rate of crimes like this has risen. I may be wrong, I can't prove that I'm right, but I certainly think I am.

There definitely are some "bad seeds" in every generation, and no matter how good the parenting has been, those kids are going to come to a bad end, too often taking others with them. I've seen parents almost suicidal because they'd simply run out of possible solutions in dealing with their bad seed kid.

But there are a few parents, and fewer than many believe, who simply never should have been parents. No matter how many times and in how many ways they're told, they will never believe that their child could possibly be guilty of whatever it may have been. When they're told that unless things change, and that the whole family probably needs "intervention", things are simply going to go from bad to worse, they'll deny it. Sometimes, years later, I've been tempted to contact parents to say "I told you so", but I've never done it.

A lot of people mistakenly blame the police. It's not their fault. It's often the fault of the laws themselves. Judges are frustrated, too. The "book" they can throw at a juvenile offender is far too slim. In my opinion, we need to tighten up laws applying to juveniles, but there would be a heck of an outcry from some people ("bleeding hearts", in my opinion, until they or one of their family members become a victim--then the tune changes with the speed of light.)

Through working and volunteering, and what I've seen from that, we need to bring back the death penalty.

According to one news story, that poor girl wasn't taken aboard the bus by these two killers in one bag, it was two. I leave it to your imagination. One of the charges they faced was the old "committing an indignity upon a human body."

[kittahmunhaPromotions]

gah.. those teens watched way too much TV.. too much CSI

[Nostradama]

gah.. those teens watched way too much TV.. too much CSI

Yep, I agree with you, I think. For good writing and totally scarey plots, 'tho, "Criminal Minds" is the absolute winner. The Criminal Minds episodes are violent and sometimes pretty twisted. But really, really well written. However, I don't think at my age that they're going to turn me into a killer.

The "I think" at the beginning is because I really wonder how much more effect violent computer games have on kids and teens. I've never played one, but I've read a lot about the violence, or seen them talked about on TV. I'm not really qualified to judge, but taking what other people think, I wonder if violent games are worse than TV shows.

Anyone familiar enough with teens and violent gaming to give an opinion? I'm just going on what others have said, and I'd like to know more.

[AceMcCool]

I have played violent computer/video games for years. In my opinion the person is the problem, not the violent computer/video game. I would say I am perfectly fine, I don't think or dream of killing people or animals. Most people that get obsessed with the actions they see in the game then think they can get away with doing them in their real life must have a preexisting issue that the game simply brings to light.

I am not a sick or strange person for playing the games. They games are just entertainment just like a movie or tv show. The only difference to me is that you are interacting and going through the adventure the game provides.

[numbertwopencil]

...The furthest he went that year was stealing the bibles from every teacher's desk, since that was back in the days when the bible was read aloud daily, taking them to the stage in the auditorium, and burning them, which resulted in a bit of a fire, but no major damage. That was in the sixties...

It saddens me that you think of this as the act of a crazy person.