The RCMP

[dill66]

First of all before i show my displesure i would like to say i respect what they do, when they actually are "protecting and serving." Two years ago i was at a party, it was my birthday weekend.... and i got a six pack of beer, well the party got broke up by the cops, (which is fine), so everyone left, i still had two beers in my bacpack, i had drinking 2 and a half beers. and given away the other one.

I dont like getting drunk, like most kids my age, i was 15 at the time... i just drink a little so i become more social.. i was not drunk at all, but on the way out the cop stopped me and wanted to check my bag, i told him i had 2 beers. he made me dump out the beers and gave me a 230$ fine. so now i have to figure how to tell my dad, while my friends are boucing around laughing and having a great time.

Last night i was at a party, not drinking since i wanted to have a good sleep, in my own bed.....the police once again shut it down, whatever we were pretty loud and it was after midnight, so thats fine.....some of my friends were really drunk, they were two really drunk girls, they wanted to go home, and they asked me, so i said yeah, two other girls came with them.....so obviously i know im breaking the law both times, but come on, give me break......i rather take the risk of a fine, then one of them passing out in a ditch, or driving with someone who is drunk.....well what do you know, i hit a roadblock....thank you for being a good guy, but heres a 109$ fine....i was being respectful, i explained the situation, but all they have in mind is $....when did protect and serve turn into bully and rape, and serving unfair fines?

[Flugel Horn]

Legal drinking age is 19. That's pretty simple to learn and remember.

Novice drivers-licence rules are also simple to learn and remember.
- someone should have called a sober adult with a regular drivers licence to drive the underage-drunks home.

The rules are simple and easy to remember, but do require some people to plan ahead.

My suggestion is to consider the $109 fine as a "cost of your entertainment." It's all part of the price that you accept to pay for the privilege of you and the other people doing what they did. So pay the price that you knew you were risking paying. And if those girls are grateful for your help, they should each reinburse you for part of your fine. After all, wasn't paying that fine part of their "get home safe" plan?

I live in a world where I need to think about my get-home-safe plan if I choose to drink away from my home. Shouldn't everyone else have the same responsibility? Or maybe that's why the laws assume that only adults drink, because only adults are expected to be able to think ahead and plan for themselves?

[dill66]

k buddy, i clearly stated that i knew i was breaking the law... for the first one, would you really give a kid a fine for having two beers in his bac pack?? unless your a prick no.....as for the second one, they should have planned ahead, its not like a wanted to drive them home, she was like blacking out, i coulldent just pretend to not notice, the one cop who was at the party saw the girls pile into my car, and he didnt do anything about it....how come the cop at the road block,didnt give the girls a fine for being drunk? they care more about getting money than protecting lives.....they then had to walk home, some didnt have shoes, and had a ways to go.......who are they protecting by giving me a fine, and making them walk home drunk?

[Nanaimo1]

What you say, it is ok to break the law if you have a reason?

[BigMac]

Sounds to me that if you stayed away from party's that get broken up by the police, you wouldn't have had a problem. If you break the law, you have to be willing to suffer the consequences!!!

[Flugel Horn]

Don't you think that it's pretty stupid for someone to let themself get so drunk that she couldn't even find her shoes? And if she were to do this, why wouldn't she plan to do it someplace safe, and with a plan? And doesn't she know that anytime you add alcohol into a situation, it's way more likely for things to get out of hand?

The rest of society seems to underand this logic fairly well. Well, not everyone, but most people.

Fines are a deterrant for stupid people to maybe (just maybe) make them realize that they shouldn't do that thing (or maybe to not keep doing it again and again). If you don't like the "stupid people" conclusion, then just consider it your intelligent & responsible choice and that the fines are part of your cost of living. Some people think of speeding-tickets that way (just part of the cost of their lifestyle).

So either you're really naive and feel entitled, or you should quit whining and accept the costs of your chosen entertainment and the costs of your chosen friends.

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ps: lest you or anyone else think I'm a prude, I'll let you know that my beer of choice around this time of year is the Hermannator. It's a seasonal ice-bock done by Van Isle Brewery. Very tasty, and potent at 9.5%. It's a beer to be drinken slowly and enjoyed. I've never had a police officer bother me while I was drinking it...

[tailtwister]

Taxis are always cheaper than fines...

Not sure why some people figure that the law doesn't apply to them (or shouldn't apply to them) when they are doing some sort of seemingly good deed or think that they haven't broken the law enough to justify it. I do know of people that have not been fined but I'm guessing from the tone of your original message and the reply that it was likely attitude that got you the fine more than anything.

I'm quite happy having the law being the line you don't cross. Plan ahead and be aware.

[dill66]

What you say, it is ok to break the law if you have a reason?

if it prevents my friends from driving home drunk?? i can tell that most of you here are the kind of people that would throw their own friends and family in front of a bus if it saves thier own asses.....there was no doubt in my mind i was breaking the law, i just thought it would be better if my friends were not passing out in a ditch, sorry if im out of line here.......nobody answered my questio eithier, who are they protecting by giving me a fine, and making them walk home?

[Flugel Horn]

nobody answered my questio eithier, who are they protecting by giving me a fine, and making them walk home?

They are protecting YOU, to help you and your friends to remember not to be so stupid next time.

They are also protecting ME and everyone else by taking an overloaded car of distracting drunk-passengers with an unqualified driver off the road.

[dill66]

They are protecting YOU, to help you and your friends to remember not to be so stupid next time.

They are also protecting ME and everyone else by taking an overloaded car of distracting drunk-passengers with an unqualified driver off the road.

not to be so stupid?? how am i the stupid one? for doing the right thing i am the dick? unqaulified? i passed my test which should make me qualified.....and yet some 80 year old blind person, can have as many drunk people in there car as they want, as long as there is enough seatbelts.....most people by their thirties dont even now what a shoulder check is...and i wasent taken off the road, i drove away......but your right i have looked it through, you and your wisdom has guided me into the right path...next time, just like you..i would responsibly tell my friends that they are not my problem, they can pass out, drive drunk, or drive with whoever.. as long as it saves my own ass......cause thats all people like you care about, is yourselves.........but no its clear, where this is going so i want to finish by saying. i did the right thing, i made it my responisblity to get my friends home safe....my parents said they are proud of me for that....and if i could do it again, i wouldnt change i thing but besides going the other way..........it was on bowen, where they are doing construction, if any of you were curious

thank you